Talldarkn67 於 8小時前 發表
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed people in China claiming to "invent" AI bike sharing mobile payments vaporizers etc. etc. ? How can you claim to invent something that was around long before it came to China? Yet if you point this out to someone in China they just accuse you of being a victim of "western propaganda". Am I really a victim of propaganda? Are there actually Chinese inventions that were made after 1950 that I'm not aware of?
–]xiefeilaga 8 指標 6小時前
So there actually is a concerted effort by the propaganda folks to push the idea of the new "four great Chinese inventions." I can't remember exactly what they are but they include high speed rail bike sharing and probably something about WeChat.
It's more along the lines of "look how good China is doing under the party" "see we're actually innovative" and "here are a bunch of convoluted interviews about how the world admires us."
There are arguments to be made that things like high speed rail and bike sharing really found their groove in China and finally found enough application and scale to bloom as technologies/business models. I've heard conflicting things about vaporizers. It's definitely not on the list but one of the first major manufacturers was definitely Chinese (I'm talking e-cig vaporizers not the weed ones which go back a few decades). Mobile payments are definitely bigger in China than anywhere else but paypal has been around since the 90s.
Anyway probably best to just step out of the way if the people around you can't deal with a bit of nuance.
[–]stealmyrecords 8 指標 6小時前
High-speed rail bike-sharing mobile payment and e-commerce. We've discussed these pretty extensively in my office - we've ran articles where we flat-out state that they aren't "inventions" in the technical sense. I've convinced the editorial staff to use "innovations" instead of "inventions" for the most part. We focus on the fact that China has adopted or improved some of these technologies more quickly and/or widely than other countries which is true.
The words innovation and innovate were used so many times in it I had to read it a few times to realize it really seemed to mean invention... But the subtle difference could have been intentional. I didn't go to the event.
[–]iwazaruu 20 指標 6小時前
You have been here for 10+ years
You are married
You have a goddamned mixed blood child
And yet you still want to start shit with local Chinese who have fuckall to do with whatever inventions happen
Keep on fighting the good fight.
[–]Talldarkn67[S] 5 指標 6小時前
Is it wrong to try and help people see the truth? I'm not fighting anyone. I'm trying to inform them. Wouldn't you tell a friend if they are walking around with something in their teeth? Or would you let them continue to think they look fine? If I thought something was true that wasn't I would hope one of my friends would help me by telling me I was wrong. How is trying to share truth with people considered a "fight"?
[–]iwazaruu 14 指標 6小時前
because you are one of those assholes who can't see what's wrong with 'just telling it like it is'.
you're still in america a new chinese guy* is hired and works with you.
all he fucking talks about is the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. and NSA. and Internet Neutrality. and Trump. and every other goddamn thing that's shit about America.
How do you respond?
Say whatever you want
The answer is "Jesus christ this guy is annoying as fuck. Swear to god I'm just gonna start nodding and humming next time he talks to me about what I can do to end the war in Afghanistan."
Get some self-awareness OP. That's the best advice I can give you. It is honestly embarrassing you still don't know how to act with people after living here so long.
*= how about any immigrant really not just chinese.
[–]Talldarkn67[S] 12 指標 6小時前
Thank you for your advice. I will take it to heart.
[–]marmakoide 1 指標 58 分鐘前
“help people see the truth”
If you come with The Truth (tm) you will naturally be received with hostility. If you are from USA and a guy start to shove in your face things like public transportation in USA sucks this is the way it is I share the truth to you how you would feel about it regardless it of the truth of it ?
[–]lammatthew725Hong Kong 4 指標 7小時前*
same goes to apple
apple didnt invent nor did they popularize smart phones
blackberry and O2 did
and also apple didnt invent tablets archos did. (or ibm... if u count those early thinkpad x-series)
and mp3 players? no. not ipod. remember creative diamond rio?
[–]metalgearexMacau 2 指標 5小時前
apple is shit that stupid people buy in hoards because they don't know how to use technology. still successful though. makes sense that china would be good at innovating in this way given the amount of stupid people here.
[–]fungal_misdirection 1 指標 4小時前
Haha; we had a box of portable MP3 players that we got as promos from companies. Like 10 of them. None of them had the capacity of the iPod though. Also they were 90s "cyber" ugly.
[–]root-of-grass 1 指標 1小時前
We Chinese invented Fuxian Yi the 'senior scientist' of University Wisconsin.
And through him we invented a new science called "Yi's demography". Its basic theory is to make (or fake) a huge datum with whatever method you could think of.
[–]root-of-grass 1 指標 1小時前
And we Chinese also invented melamine milk and gutter oil.
In the end we would invent a new species Homo Venenosa which could survive any poisonous food and would become the only species left on this toxic planet.
[–]samsonlike 1 指標 7小時前
Talldarkn67.....The Chinese people are victims of credit taking. The ruling communists try to take all the credit they can get their hands on. To succeed they hide information from their subjects thereby making them misinformed and blind in essence. Therefore most present day Chinese believe their communist rulers invented many things probably including those you named.